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City man wants prime minister charged with advocating for genocide

Andrew Abbass has filed a complaint with the Corner Brook RNC alleging that Prime Minister Stephen Harper is advocating for genocide in his support for Israel.

Andrew Abbass didn’t quite know what to expect when he walked in the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary’s Corner Brook headquarters on Monday morning.

Abbass was there to file a complaint.

Nothing unusual there for the police force, but the focus of his complaint was a little out of the ordinary.

Abbass is seeking to have Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird charged with advocating for genocide.

“They accepted it and filed the case,” he said shortly after leaving the RNC.

His complaint, which also alleges creation and dissemination of propaganda, breach of public trust and uttering threats, stem from comments Harper and Baird have made about the ongoing Israeli conflict.

“In painting Hamas and the people of Gaza as a terrorist organization they’re basically sanctioning the killing of civilians,” said Abbass.

He’s put together a document that outlines the reasons for the requested charges that can be found via a link in an online petition at http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/rcmp-arrestharperandbaird4hatespeech-under-criminalcodesections318and319?share_id=OolYnQmYdr&utm_campaign=friend_inviter_chat&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=permissions_dialog_false.

The document includes a video titled “Through Fire and Water,” http://youtu.be/hq8MN0OBEO4, that Abbass describes as hate propaganda published by the Conservative Party of Canada.

The video references parts of a speech Harper made recently to the Israeli Knesset. During the speech Harper said that Canada supports Israel fundamentally and pledges to stand with Israel “through fire and water.”

“I’m Canadian,” said Abbass when asked why he decided to seek legal action against Harper and Baird.

“I realize that we provide a bigger role in providing a moral compass for the West than like America does. Canada has always been the conscientious objector to using military action against civilians.”

Abbass said that’s what’s happening in Israel right now, where 25 per cent of the causalities are children, and that Harper is advocating for it.

Abbass has studied at Memorial University and has met people from all over world.

“In talking about it we all realized that the people over there are fighting over stupid shit,” he said. “And it’s not our place to get in there and say you’re morally right or your morally wrong and you deserve to die.”

Abbass said the comments of Harper and Baird reflect on Canada.

He said there have been protests about it in Canada that have resulted in violence between Muslim and Jewish Canadians.

“It’s created division between us,” Abbass said. “It’s going to deepen division between religions.”

He said the end result is that the Canadian reputation is going to be tarnished and Canadians will become endangered overseas.

“You know we’re going to lose our reputation as a peacemaker,” said Abbass.

“Canadian prime ministers have always followed the rule of law when dealing with international situations and Stephen Harper has let his moral and religious beliefs get in the way of that.”

While Abbass filed his complaint with the local RNC it won’t be this force that investigates.

Const. Scott Mosher, the RNC’s media relations officer in the city, confirmed the file has been passed over to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

Mosher said that’s procedure for complaints of this nature. It had to be filed with the RNC first because it has jurisdiction over the city, and this is where Abbass lives.

“Our role in this would be to forward the information,” said Mosher. He added if there is any other support the RNC can offer it will.

Mosher agreed the complaint is a bit unusual for the city force.

“Not unusual in the sense we’ve received a complaint that has to be forwarded to another agency for investigation,” Mosher said.

In this case, he said, it’s the nature of the complaint and the people involved that’s out of the norm.

EARLIER STORY

Andrew Abbass started the process Monday morning that could see Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird charged with advocating for genocide.

Abbass took his evidence against the two to the Corner Brook Royal Newfoundland Constabulary.

He left with a file number and an assurance the RNC would look into the matter and pass it on to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. His complaint, which also alleges creation and dissemination of propaganda, breach of public trust and uttering threats, had to be filed with the RNC because it has jurisdiction over the city, of which Abbass is a resident.

His actions stem from comments Harper and Baird have made about the ongoing conflict in Israel.

“In painting Hamas and the people of Gaza as a terrorist organization they’re basically sanctioning the killing of civilians,” said Abbass.

Abbass's complaint references a speech Harper made recently to the Israeli Knesset. During the speech Harper said that Canada supports Israel fundamentally and pledges to stand with Israel “through fire and water.”

“Canadian prime ministers have always followed the rule of law when dealing with international situations and Stephen Harper has let his moral and religious beliefs get in the way of that,” said Abbass.

Organizations: Corner Brook Royal Newfoundland Constabulary.He, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Hamas Israeli Knesset

Geographic location: Corner Brook, Israel, Gaza Canada

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  • Ian Robinson
    October 13, 2014 - 13:21

    ARREST HARPER!

  • AD
    July 29, 2014 - 18:09

    I'm against Hamas and the Jewish state in this situation! The people I feel bad for are the defenseless civilians on BOTH sides who have to stated they don't want this war!!! What we have are leaders with religious influences who are reacting, not leading! Both governments are acting little children and this is the problem when you throw religious ideology into the mix when governing a country! Let this be a lesson to us all .... to the pitfalls of organized religion and why its the true evil in the world! Get rid of theology and you eliminate the issues that divide us. We'd have a better world!

  • David James Vickery
    July 26, 2014 - 08:59

    Andrew, I believe that you have put yourself in danger by taking this action. There is a very great risk that you and your family will be monitored by Canadian authorities such as CSIS. Canada is no longer a protector of human rights, and hasn't been for many years. Are you not aware of the strong bond between the Harper government and the government of Israel?

    • Andrew Abbass
      July 29, 2014 - 06:13

      Am I supposed to live in fear because they want me to? Are we supposed to let these things go on in our name because some cheap schoolyard bully has been going around whispering hate in people's ears? Screw that. I won't be silent.

  • Amitis Partovi
    July 25, 2014 - 08:10

    He is absolutely correct and he has my support. In fact, sign me up as well and let’s make this a class-action lawsuit. The federal government is not representing the Canadian people and they use our tax contributions to support and visit a state that is in defiance of UN security council resolutions more than any other state.

  • Dquint
    July 23, 2014 - 20:53

    This guy needs a history, or maybe current events, lesson. Read Hamas's founding charter: they call for the murder of all Jews. In what world are they not a terrorist organization?

    • Reason
      July 24, 2014 - 08:02

      What of the Civilians?

  • Braden
    July 23, 2014 - 18:22

    Hey Andrew. Hamas is a terrorist organization! It's not just Canada and the Harper government that says that, it's the whole international community from the US and France to the United Nations. There's no painting involved. Hamas has already filled everything in.

    • David James Vickery
      July 26, 2014 - 09:12

      It is only under pressure from Jews in the U.S. State Department and the Israel lobby AIPAC that the United States government has designated Hamas as a "terrorist" organization. The truth is quite the contrary.

  • Mr.Roboto
    July 23, 2014 - 17:14

    Why does Israel hate Hamas so much? Well, it might be because Hamas' stated goal is to completely annihilate Israel and every jewish person. This isn't something I'm making up or taking out of context either, the very charter of Hamas states ""The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."" There's 4 examples of this in their very charter. There's no question Hamas is a terrorist organization, any organization that by philosophy seeks to wipe out an entire race is terrorist.

  • waitforit
    July 23, 2014 - 13:20

    Well it sounds to me like MR.Harper knows his Bible. In the end days it says that nations will turn against Israel and the Lord will severely punish the nations that try to destroy Israel. This unsettling in the middle east in particular with Israel was predicted thousands of years ago, before the birth and death of Christ. The people and tribes of Israel have been subjects of persecution and wars since the dawn of creation. God chose Israel as his chosen country and he brought them through wars like no other and perform miracles and brought punishment against the nations that tried to take him out. I believe Mr.Harper knows this and is erring on the side of caution. Worse days are coming. I know people are going to shoot down this comment but it has to be said. So many people are uneducated in religion and biblical references and prophecy.

    • Andrew Abbass
      July 23, 2014 - 14:00

      And you don't think that Germany attacking the Jews was the nations turning against Israel in the first place? And that maybe Mr. Harper is actually leading the wrong side?

    • Criss Rockett
      July 23, 2014 - 19:41

      "biblical prophecy?" Yikes. Well, the religious have never let facts get in the way of a good story.

    • Seanj
      July 23, 2014 - 20:42

      waitforit........ oh and now that the wait is over let's do this! First of all, there is no need to bring religion into this. Killing innocent people isn't promoted by any religion, and the truly righteous pricks who are doing this in the name of god to get the "promised land" or whatever are just plain cruel. It doesn't take a genius to realize that Israel is using brute force and especially one that is unnecessary... against a group of people who are simply not equal in terms of military might. You speak as if you're educated about religion, but then again any blind follower of any ideology will defend its ideas regardless of its flaws or illogical teachings.

  • Nathan Burke-Earle
    July 23, 2014 - 10:59

    A lot of people here are misinformed about what's going on in Israel, I would consider them far from "defending themselves" against missles. They have a Iron Dome missle defense system, only one rocket from the Hamas was even able to get through and it damaged a road. While a supposedly advanced Isreali military murders palestine civilians with constant missile strikes, including four little boys just playing on a beach. Two of them were 9, one was 10 and the other 11. Maybe some of you should actually research into what's happening in the region instead of blindly listening to western media, form your own opinion and stop putting someone down for just trying to do something about what he sees as unjust.

  • Chris Anthony
    July 23, 2014 - 10:26

    Unless you actually know about the things ISIS are doing in Gaza, it's best not to claim you do.....

  • Z54
    July 23, 2014 - 07:40

    Harper obviously believes that he works for Barack Obama and not the Canadian people! Perhaps Harper and Slick Oily can share a cell and a bar of soap in the Hague!

  • Mike B.
    July 22, 2014 - 21:47

    Okay, this is pretty cool, but how can we get enough publicity and people behind it to force the Harper-loyal RCMP to launch a legitimate investigation?

  • Shelley
    July 22, 2014 - 20:52

    This man has a conscience, doesn't want to be complicit to genocide. Know how he feels. Thanks for speaking out and taking action, Mr Cash. You will get lots of disparaging and negative feedback but don't be deterred. You are on the side of morality.

  • Thoughts
    July 22, 2014 - 19:33

    Spend 2 weeks in Israel running from bombs and you will feel what it is like. Some of you are very very naive and do not appear to know what is really going on. Go to Palestine and ask them what they did with the over $500 million dollars in aid that was given to them in the past 2 years.??

  • Brian
    July 22, 2014 - 19:10

    Harpo and his bird (Baird) are equally responsible for genocide in Palestine and should be tried in war crimes tribunal. I do not want my tax money to contribute to killing of Palestinians. Harper is a terrorist and a puppet of Israel.

  • Brian
    July 22, 2014 - 19:04

    Harpo and his bird (Baird) are equally responsible for genocide in Palestine and should be tried in war crimes tribunal. I do not want my tax money to contribute to killing of Palestinians. Harper is a terrorist and a puppet of Israel.

  • ryan
    July 22, 2014 - 17:30

    Way to go man!!!!

  • gragor
    July 22, 2014 - 14:12

    Thank you very much for taking a stand against this train wreck of a government. Innovative thinking is what is required to derail these people. Thanks again for thinking outside of the box.

  • RJ Pisko
    July 22, 2014 - 12:59

    No comment could be more appropriate than the filing of the complaint.

  • Erik
    July 22, 2014 - 11:42

    This is what Mr. Harper and his body obama supports: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doWweFTdOHc

  • Ian McAndrew
    July 22, 2014 - 11:41

    I am ashamed that as a Canadian I have not done more to speak out against and stand up to the bullies currently heading our government; it may be Harper's Government but is certainly not mine. The least I can do is sign this man's petition and hope the RCMP take the charges seriously.

  • ropar
    July 22, 2014 - 11:36

    Good for you! It's time for people to start standing up and holding our leaders accountable! It's time to say, "We don't agree with you and we are not going to turn a blind eye!"

  • PashaFist
    July 22, 2014 - 10:33

    Tom Marshall is in a position to speak to this citizen and his concerns. Will this be another Bosnia or Rwanda for peacekeepers? It just may if we don't talk about it and create social license and awareness to protect innocents - this is not at all like having your light bill double - in a matter of true life or death.

  • david
    July 22, 2014 - 07:02

    Wow. And yikes. That is all.

  • Jeremy
    July 22, 2014 - 07:01

    Wow I see a lot of ignorance still from my home area. That's no surprise, I know what it was like growing up there. But the next generation will be better than you old idiots who are dying off. Good riddance to bad Newfie rubbish

  • shakin his head
    July 22, 2014 - 06:01

    somebody call the Looney Bin..I think they're missing a resident!!!

    • Lifting an Eye Brow
      July 22, 2014 - 21:56

      I feel this comment is un called for, have you any idea what he is talking about. Try Researching some of the things that he is speaking about and your realize its all real and resources to prove it..And if your unaware of what is happening in Israel , we should call the Looney Bin for you

    • Evelyn
      July 23, 2014 - 12:15

      You escaped than? Nice of you to let us know!

    • J
      July 25, 2014 - 15:03

      Not only is this comment uncalled for, but I believe it is incredibly ridiculous to use a term like "looney bin". Move with the times, stop being politically incorrect, start having some compassion, stop insulting people. There is no need for a comment of this nature. It does not add to the discussion of the article.

  • Bill Hicks
    July 22, 2014 - 02:41

    You can see the conservative astroturfing in the comments here... "get a job" remarks are really obvious shilling to distract from the story and attack the man. You should get different jobs instead of reading disinfo online

  • Ken Pittman
    July 22, 2014 - 02:11

    Sorry folks but he has a legit complaint, and has the right to file one. If you knew the history of the region since 1948, and the injustice experienced by human beings there, maybe you would support him. Our Feds should be promoting peace, not the slaughter of innocent civilians. Bombing Gaza to achieve peace is akin to trying to douse a fire with gasoline.

    • iamnowon
      July 25, 2014 - 15:40

      Sorry, Ken, but the "injustice" you speak of is entirely the Arab's fault as they tried - and failed- to wage successive wars of annihilation against the Jews.

  • Nadine Lumley
    July 22, 2014 - 02:01

    Radio Interview from @CBCSunday CBC Sunday interviews Dana Golan. She’s a former veteran of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). In her new book, she interviews 950+ disillusioned Israeli ex-soldiers who dare to speak openly re Israel apartheid and illegally occupying Palestinian land. 950+ former Israeli IDF soldiers reveal truths about Israel’s institutionalized practices of intimidation and brutality towards Palestinians in the occupied territories, including night raids and arbitrary arrests unrelated to security, the use of human shields, etc. http://www.cbc.ca/thesundayedition/features/2013/10/20/feature-7/ -00-

  • Everett Coldwell
    July 21, 2014 - 23:41

    No Canadian should be above the law. If Prime Minister Harper and John Baird are found guilty they should be prosecuted like any other Canadian.

  • Melissa Fuller
    July 21, 2014 - 23:13

    Good on you friend! After reading this I feel a little bit prouder of Canada. The conduct of our federal government has been a source of great embarrassment lately. There's no excuse for the one-sided approach our government has been taking to the conflict in Gaza.

  • Max P House
    July 21, 2014 - 22:52

    am I the only one that noticed that the people commenting about ''oh God, get a job'' ''I can't believe this nonsense''.. seem to be Harper paid trolls? Seems like the government of Canada has invested into a nice shinny Trollmobile

  • David Winkler
    July 21, 2014 - 22:44

    A very neat approach to a problem that many of Canadians felt disgusted by. Harper's proclamation of blind support for Israel really ticked me off, and I am glad that Mr. Abbass is taking on this arduous task.

  • ML White
    July 21, 2014 - 22:08

    Thank you for this action. The CONS have ruined Canada's reputation as a Peacekeeper. Harper is in bed with the apartheid Israeli regime and history will show how wrong this is. Thanks again for standing up and speaking out.

  • kp
    July 21, 2014 - 18:52

    This guy does need to get a life/job! The RNC/RCMP have better things to do than to humour this guy and spend two seconds of their time on it. Frivilous and vexation allegations, HE should be charged with Mischief! AND The western Star should also have more important issues to report.

    • Jeremy
      July 22, 2014 - 06:59

      Clearly you're a paid shill or simply not really canadian, since a majority of Canadians do care about our role as peacekeepers as well as our reputation, not to mention our gov't is advocating genocide. If someone invaded us and we fought back what would they label us? Terrorists.

    • Kaspar Juul
      July 22, 2014 - 08:46

      Calm down, you sound hysterical

  • Leah Aubrecht
    July 21, 2014 - 18:48

    Well there is 2 minutes of my life I cannot reclaim . Too bad the subject of this article is clearly short on history and facts . I cannot believe this is news I hope he got his fifteen minutes . Another ignorant mid informed liberal

    • ec
      July 22, 2014 - 12:35

      Said the ignorant misinformed (at least spell it correctly) conservative. Facts are facts, but then [insert any dictator's name here] supporters never believed he broke the law either. Our Dear Leader has done many things that make him the most reprehensible PM we've ever had.

  • Ashley
    July 21, 2014 - 17:46

    What a nut job! Get a life and a job! Western Star, you should be ashamed of yourselves for publishing this story.

  • Kevin
    July 21, 2014 - 15:20

    I see exactly what this man is talking about. if we as regular citizens did the same we'd be charged. Just because they are in positions of power does not mean they are above the law. About time someone stood up and said something!

    • Oh wow
      July 22, 2014 - 11:45

      No. We wouldn't be. Because political stance does not = advocating genocide. Saying that Israel should defend itself is NOT saying 'death to Palestine'. That's not saying Israel is in the right, it's just saying this charge has little to no basis.

  • steve
    July 21, 2014 - 14:14

    So Israel should sit and watch Hamas shoot rockets into their country?The killing of 3 jewish teens should be forgotten.This guy must be joking.Israel has EVERY right to defend themselves.Hamas is a terrorist group that hides behind women and children while they shoot rockets in to Israel.Not only are they terrorist,they are cowards as well.

    • Joe
      July 22, 2014 - 22:52

      Educate yourself fool. Israel has been harassing Palestinians in the west bank for decades. The settlements are illegal by international law, and those 3 jewish kids were killed by unknown people, no proof linked them to Hamas. They were probably revenge killing to the 2 Palestinian kids shot in cold blood just before that, which Israel denied and CNN caught them red handed on camera. Israeli kids then killed a Palestinian kid, made him drink gas and burnt him alive. Israel also then arrested more than 600 Palestinians. In the current attack on Gaza, Israel is accusing civilians as being human shields by redifining their war book and lableing anyone who is left behind after a warning a human shield and collateral damage. They shelled hospitals and schools giving absolutely NO evidence of there actually being Hamas or rockets there. The ammunition they are using are also against international law in civilian areas. Israel has blockaded Gaza since the last attack, and the blockade as per last deal was supposed to be lifted. It never was. Israel was also supposed to stop the settlements, but instead they have grown, and new ones popped up, all by theft of Palestinian land. Go educate yourself. Israel is the provoker, the thief, the murderer, and Harper is supporting it. Canada was a peace keeping country, not a country that supports murder, racism, and apartheid.

    • sean
      July 22, 2014 - 23:35

      So how many Israeli's have been killed by Hamas? I'll wait... Oh what's that? 4? What's the death toll at now? Over 500? So which people are the real criminals?

    • izzy
      July 23, 2014 - 13:06

      yes those 3 teens...... what about the 100's of children dead in Ghaza? Because children of 2 and 4 years are Hamas right....

    • Yo mama
      July 23, 2014 - 14:25

      Amen bro.

  • Huh?
    July 21, 2014 - 13:33

    Good god. Get a job.

    • Joannah E.
      July 21, 2014 - 13:56

      Seriously, Huh? You've got to love the compassion of some Newfoundlanders. Shame they can't see past their own noses.

  • Jeff
    July 21, 2014 - 12:22

    I remember a time when Canada was well regarded in the world. Genocide is indeed a serious issue, despite what Fairy Land thinks, and it's a disgrace that Messrs. Harper and Baird support it. Good luck to you Mr. Abbass.

  • A Abyss
    July 21, 2014 - 12:05

    Follow @AndrewAbbass on twitter for more information about the Petition and a copy of the charges to deliver yourself.

  • Andrew Abbass
    July 21, 2014 - 11:58

    Here's the web address for the petition. chn.ge/1k3abRK And here's the web address for the charges presented. paradigmslip.ca/Charges.pdf

    • Wendy Forrest
      July 22, 2014 - 10:03

      Much respect to you Andrew. Many Canadians do not understand what is really going on and that Israel is committing genocide upon a largely unarmed people who have nowhere to run. I blame government and the media for that. Like you, they do not speak for this Canadian. Social media is having a impact on people's perceptions of what is really happening...you should to start a facebook page!

  • Jessica
    July 21, 2014 - 11:48

    In the opening line the subject of this article is identified as Danny Abbass, but under the picture he is named as Andrew Abbass. Which is it?

  • Jessica
    July 21, 2014 - 11:47

    In the opening line the subject of this article is identified as Danny Abbass, but under the picture he is named as Andrew Abbass. Which is it?

  • ARIELY SHEIN
    July 21, 2014 - 11:26

    Hamas Islamist terrorists are responsible for the civilian losses. Their interest, by using civilian shield, is to protect the terrorist lives and to use civilian death as political and propaganda tool. 1: The defending Israel, for a couple of consecutive days, worn the civilians to departure from areas packed with Islamist terrorists. By: phone calls, pamphlets, small not dangerous and no explosive devises dropped on the area, radio and TV warnings. (Nobody in the human history took a similar combination to save life's) -- Hamas used Mosques megaphones, and direct treat of civilians heading for a safe place demanding the civilians to stay and disobey the Israeli warnings. 2:""keeping civilians in war zones and said they were leading them to their deaths,""" Said by Hamas spokesman. Google search: hamas-spokesman-defends-using-civilians-as-human-shields-video 4:"" WE IMPOSE A NEW NON CONVENTIONAL EQUATION IN WARS"" (hiding among civilians denies armies respecting war conventions and modern western moral values the freedom to protect their own civilians) -Khalid Mash'al on Al-Jazeera 5: Example of cynical use by Hamas of civilian infrastructures: ---Hamas military headquarter is located in the basements of Shifa hospital in Gaza – --- Some Hamas tunnels start in Mosques and civilians houses. --- Hamas launches rockets from hospitals yard --- Hamas hide rockets in Gaza schools. 6: Watch pictures and videos- you will notice that shouting terrorists and terrorist infrastructures surnamed by Palestinian civilians including children !!!!! Palestinians –people taking carry for their children, should keep them away from terrorists. ---- ""why the Syrian army, Hezbollah and other Islamic military groups cannot be more humane like the Israeli. "" Question from an Al- Jazeera debate:

  • fairy land
    July 21, 2014 - 11:06

    What in the world is a paper like this doing in printing a story like this? Is this supposed to be humorous? Is it poking fun, or does Ms. Crocker think this is really newsworthy? That poor sod is clearly a fool.